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Zloco Crendraven
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Posted - 2013.04.08 19:56:00 -
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Rise the changes on all races are pretty much OK. It will shake up EVE and that is what is needed. By our nature men kind is afraid of changes so dont succumb to the crybabies. Only thing i d look into it is maybe 1 less high to mega and 1 more low.
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Zloco Crendraven
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Posted - 2013.04.09 12:18:00 -
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Megathrone changes are just great. Dont do anyhting more to it. PPL are just plain stupid and dont understand a thing about the game except to moan.
U get the same damn tank: 2 plates, 2 eanm, 1DC
U get 1 less low for a mag stab but u damn morons now have a rof bonus which is >>> pure dmg.
U lose a bit of dps in -25 drone bay but u get:
- Faster
- Agile
- A bit better cap situation
- And lower signature
And on top of everything u get the damn mid slot as a bonus!
Hyperion and Domi are needed to be looked at a bit.
Imo Hyperion is tricky. There are 2 options imo:
- 1 less highslot with 5% of rof bonus and + 1 lowslot
- or just boost his default stats a bit. Some more armor, drone bw, speed and agility
Gallente needs some large scale battle BS and imo the new Domi can do the trick. With new bonuses it can fill the role same as the abaddon. Better sniper with sentries (smth in line with mael and rokh) and can be very good at close range too sa Abadon is.
+ the versatility that can be added into the highs if wanted.
But for the Domi to play such a role and for other drone ships to play a role in a fleet doctrine, drone interface needs to be changed and some bits more about sentries.
All other 3 races are just fine. Love the new Armagedon and Typhoon. The only thing is dont lower the res bonuses to abaddon and rokh. They are great anti blob ships, but still dont have that upper hand to deserve a nerf.
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Zloco Crendraven
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Posted - 2013.04.09 12:31:00 -
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Dez Affinity wrote:Sinzor Aumer wrote:Benjamin Hamburg wrote:Seriously, nobody care about trakcing and drone optimal since drones boat are rarely use in fleet, small gang and PVE (drone get aggro now). JFC! Where do you all dwell dudes, in Dumbland? SENTRY DRONES ARE USED IN LARGE FLEET PVP!!!Those are called slowcats! The carriers with sentries, you know! Not with fighter - their intended weapon - but sentries! Domis have 3 sets of sentries. Slowcats have innumerably more. Domis move. Slowcats do not. Domis have a tenth of the EHP and don't do as well repping each other. Let me teach you about sentry drones in fleet pvp.
Domi can fill the role of a fleet BS. It can have great sniping ranges (150km with around 600 dps). It can than warp on enemy fleet and with blaster and heavies brawl with em.
The only problem is that fleets need moving, that is the biggest problem with drone boats, sentries dont follow.
Maybe it is time for CCP to look into it.
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Zloco Crendraven
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Posted - 2013.04.09 12:46:00 -
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Sinzor Aumer wrote:Zloco Crendraven wrote:The only problem is that fleets need moving, that is the biggest problem with drone boats, sentries dont follow.
Maybe it is time for CCP to look into it. No! You want moving drones - use heavies, period. You want range with sentries - then sit still in place or loose them.
Adn thats why drone boats except 1v1 or smth bigger and beside PvE sucks
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Zloco Crendraven
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Posted - 2013.04.09 13:00:00 -
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sYnc Vir wrote:Can someone point to the Gal ship that's useful in fleets?
With these changes there's even less chance of megas been welcomed alongside abaddons. A mega without 2 maga stabs is useless. To do that now you have to use 1 plate, which seems to give it an even worse tank then it currently has.
5% rof bonus + 1 mag stab = 5% dmg bonus + 2 mag stab
Now u have 1 more mid slot for or web or the track comp, which means that 5% rof + 1 mag stab dps better applied than the old fit. And on top of that u get the same tank, better cap, speed and agility. Stop whining.
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Zloco Crendraven
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Posted - 2013.04.09 13:03:00 -
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Sinzor Aumer wrote:Dez Affinity wrote:Just "stop moving your domi" isn't really good advice. There are plenty of reasons why you should, would or have to move. EHP is very relevant for any BS platform, especially one that is immobile as you suggest!
Heavy drones are more useful in smaller scale battles where the enemies are not spread out or at long ranges. Warping on top of people with short range BS is useful but sentries are better in big battles when you don't need to worry about smaller ships. Yes, and unlike slowcats it actually CAN move if you choose to. Want to save drones? Sit still. Want to move - loose drones. It's fair. What is NOT fair is that even capital-sized drones are inferior to sentries. Have you ever seen a dread with BS-sized guns? And heavy drones for close range? No, sir. Use gardes. Enemy pulled the range? Switch to bouncers. The only case you want heavies - is when you dont have a spare flight in your bay. Dez Affinity wrote:I'm not saying that 150km with 600 dps and uber tracking isn't good. It is great. It's not fun but it's statistically great. On paper sentry domi fleets will be quite good, overpowered even.
For a short while. Here, finally! At least someone competent finally acknowledged sentries ~could~ be overpowered. If you dudes spent more time doing PVP instead of super-blobbing, you'd already had a solid working doctrine.
Nah drone boats in large scale pvp sux! Other ships are much more better only because of 1 reason, u cannot move if u get sentries out.
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Zloco Crendraven
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Posted - 2013.04.09 13:32:00 -
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Sinzor Aumer wrote:Zloco Crendraven wrote:Nah drone boats in large scale pvp sux! Other ships are much more better only because of 1 reason, u cannot move if u get sentries out. Do you have reading comprehension problems? Once again: you CAN move, if you chose to.
No u cant move! If u chose to move than u are a moron. Because u dont do dps or u are left without the drones if u move. Meanwhile the enemy fleet is pounding on you, even more if u stay still, and i ve seen better ehp boats than the domi too.
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Zloco Crendraven
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Posted - 2013.04.10 09:36:00 -
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SMT008 wrote:Good changes indeed !
I think the sweet spot has been hit for the Hyperion and the Dominix.
I'm not entirely sure about the Megathron.
I can see you changed it to 4 medslots and 8 lowslots.
Considering it's an attack battleship, I think it doesnt truly need 8 lowslots (which is something a front-line brawler would want, a skirmisher doesn't really need 8 lows).
I would have stayed with the previous 5-7 setup as it allowed either more flexibility with armor setups, as well as a possible shield-tanking version.
I won't whine and mash on the table because of it, but I'd like the 5-7 setup back. This along with the more "gun focused" thing would do literally wonders.
Exaclty, the previous change to the Mega was damn great. It could be a very versatile boat. Meh now it is same as Hyperion.
Pls roll back the mega changes.
Btw Hyperion is amazing now. Maybe a slight nerf to the Geddon would make the new changes to the domi perfect also.
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Zloco Crendraven
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Posted - 2013.04.10 09:43:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Zloco Crendraven wrote:
Exaclty, the previous change to the Mega was damn great. It could be a very versatile boat. Meh now it is same as Hyperion.
Pls roll back the mega changes.
Btw Hyperion is amazing now. Maybe a slight nerf to the Geddon would make the new changes to the domi perfect also.
How is a ship with 8 lows (capable of fitting a solid tank) comparable to a ship with 5 mids and 6 lows (incapable of fitting any form of respectable tank without completely sacrificing a rack)?
2 plates 2 eanm and a dc? Is not a solid tank?
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Zloco Crendraven
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Posted - 2013.04.10 09:56:00 -
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None looks at the fact the the Mega got the ROF bonus. Which compared to the pure dmg is like a 2nd dmg mode in the low slot.
+ it had the utility high slot and 1 more mid for the web or Tracking computer to apply even better that dmg.
Now the Mega is the same as this new Hyperion. Similar tank and dps, more speed, less utility. We really dont need same ships with different looks.
At least if the 8/5/6 is not good than put 7/5/7. In both cases Mega d be an awesome and versatile atack BS.
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Zloco Crendraven
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Posted - 2013.04.10 10:01:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:One last thing to mention: Personally, I really think sentry drones should move some, even if its only to return to bay. We need to talk some more about this internally and look at ways it can actually be implemented, but a change to this effect could have a very positive impact on the Dominix and I don't think its a very unrealistic goal.
How about consdering 10km scoop range for sentries?
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Zloco Crendraven
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Posted - 2013.04.10 10:51:00 -
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How much Mega d have dps with 7 neutrons 1 mag and 100 drone bw? Anyone able to calculate?
Taking in consideration this new rof bonus.
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Zloco Crendraven
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Posted - 2013.04.10 11:29:00 -
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Dez Affinity wrote:Zloco Crendraven wrote:How much Mega d have dps with 7 neutrons 1 mag and 100 drone bw? Anyone able to calculate?
Taking in consideration this new rof bonus. Current mega with 7 neutrons 1 mag and 5 ogres is about 1050 dps New mega with 7 neutrons 1 mag and 4 ogres is about 1030 dps both with 2 mag stabs its about 5 dps different in favour of current mega but it actually has 75 m3 drone now so its 1050 current vs 990 and 1190 vs 1140
I was wondering about if the Mega gets rolled back to 8/5/6 with 100 drone bw. Dps seems OK with comparison to the TQ one we get more speed and 1+ mid slot. Which imo makes the Mega a really good boat.
+ with the option of a shield gank/run games
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